there's a cbs poll which shows biden won by 11%. that's the kind of polling you will see. ryan did fine. i think he held his own. i think that he, you know, watched with the expertise, and the gravitas of joe biden, and the energy of joe biden, i do in the think >> and the age of joe biden. not easy to debate your father. >> for a vice presidential nominee the bar is to prove you could be president if you had to. any doubt that paul ryan met that? >> yeah, i doubt it. i don't want him to be president. i'd be scared if he was president. >> i think you're in the mine or -- a lot this morning are saying he looked like he could handle it. >> you know, when it came to foreign policy he looked very robotic, i thought. i thought that, you know, he looked like he had a good training. >> when you listen to his answers, he splay looked robotic, but when you listen to the substance of his answers. >> i think there were a lot of questions he didn't answer. i think there were a lot of moments where he just kind of, you know, shrugged his shoulders. >> ana, let me ask you, martha, pushe